Non-EU students: Welcome to the Netherlands. You're fucked.

Non-EU students: Welcome to the Netherlands. You’re fucked.

Non-EU students: Welcome to the Netherlands. You’re fucked.

by Marget McSorley

Non-EU students: Welcome to the Netherlands. You're fucked.Non-EU students come to the Netherlands to work hard at world-class universities. But unfortunately recent changes in Dutch law make it almost impossible for them to find a student job to support themselves throughout their studies. A personal account from a non-EU student.

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November 10th, 2010 was the day that my life changed for the better. It was the day that I was accepted to study at University College Utrecht. Six weeks later, two days short of Christmas, I received the best Christmas present that I will ever receive: a generous scholarship that enabled me to afford the €17.000 fee to study there. My scholarship was calculated, so that after taking out the maximum in American government-backed loans, $5.000 per year (approximately €3.540), I would just be able to cover all the non-EU student fees with almost nothing left over. That didn’t faze me. I diligently saved up every penny from my serving job at a steakhouse on the northwest side of Chicago, and sold my old books, CDs and clothes, but I didn’t have a lot of money left over. But with almost six years of experience working in restaurants and bars, I thought that I would be able to find a job easily in the Netherlands and be able to live a happy, if frugal, student life.

“With almost six years of experience working in restaurants and bars, I thought that I would be able to find a job easily in the Netherlands and be able to live a happy, if frugal, student life.”

Unfortunately, that wasn’t the case. Recent changes in Dutch law now require non-EU students to have a work permit in order to work. Before these changes went into effect, a student visa was sufficient to find work for a few hours a week during the academic year or full-time during the summer holiday. I’ve been looking for work since the second week of the semester, and have been apologetically turned away at every place of business when I said that I am a non-EU national. I don’t claim to be the victim of discrimination or blame the shopkeepers and bar managers of Utrecht. From their perspective, it simply does not make economic sense for them to go through a six to eight week permitting process to hire a non-EU bartender or shelf-stocker. According to the foreign work placement agency Unduchables, the employer must be able to legally prove that after looking for an employee for over six weeks, no Dutch or EU citizens would have been a good fit for the job, and thus the employer was forced to hire a non-EU national. When a cafe or a bakery needs to find an emergency employee, they can’t afford to wait six to eight weeks for a work permit to be approved after having the job posted for at least six weeks.

Many of my new Dutch friends have suggested that I find work through a student recruitment agency. As a non-EU national, this is not possible. The recruitment agency is technically the employer in this situation, but they are not able to apply for work permits for non-EU citizens because they are not the formal employer.

I am incredibly grateful for the opportunity to finish my studies. But a life, even a student life, with no opportunities to legally earn money, is no life at all. After buying books, bedding and, admittedly, a few beers, my Chicago savings ran out in March. When I got tonsillitis a week later, I drank liters of water and cut out all sugary foods from my diet in the hopes that the infection would go away on its own. I didn’t have 30 euros to pay the doctor’s fee or money for antibiotics. Because of the structure of student insurance plans, all plans come with an excess of around €250 that does not get reimbursed. I’m lucky that the infection went away on its own. Can you imagine not going to the doctor because you can’t afford it? This is a part of my reality.

Like most non-EU student that I know, I didn’t come to the Netherlands for a handout from the Dutch government. I don’t need to qualify for StuFi, or receive a free OV-chipkaart. I don’t think I’m entitled to free health care. I understand and accept that non-EU students have to pay higher fees. But non-EU students come to the Netherlands to work hard at world-class universities. Many of us will end up staying here as part of the highly-educated workforce that the Netherlands is known for. However, if current trends in immigration legislation continue, the Netherlands will no longer be able to attract top-flight talent from abroad. All that I want, and all that most other non-EU students want, is to have the ability to easily find student jobs so that we can support ourselves throughout our studies. That isn’t too much to ask for, is it?”

2.483 thoughts on “Non-EU students: Welcome to the Netherlands. You’re fucked.

    • I am from Asia and presently live in The Hague. I have no complaints of Dutch people – very sweet. But the laws for Non-EU students are downright discriminatory. It leaves such a narrow window for Non-EU students that if I were to really find work here, I have to be a scientist – so you can forget jobs like bar tending, working at shops etc. I am beginning to feel the rules and laws are designed in a very sinister way where a non-EU ends up paying more money to come here, pay for insurance travel costs, but has no opportunity to make a decent living.

      The above rules are leading to bad practices because there are some companies who hire non-EU graduates, but pay them shitty salary. I took up one such job out of desperation- left in three months because I earned far more in my home country in Asia.

      It’s painful. Europe in the 16th and 17th century has virtually looted every Asian country – can’t you extend a basic courtesy to us? Not asking for a favor — but don’t make it impossible.

    • Every bit you said is agonizingly true. After living in Netherlands for three years and completing by bachelors from TU Eindhoven, I can’t agree more. I have tried looking for all types of jobs here and oh boy, I didn’t get single one of them. Literally got ‘apologetic no’ from all different restaurants and warehouses I went and applied. I studied in self finance and had high hopes to at least earn my own living expenses but boy I was so wrong. So wrong that I lived a life of mystery for the past three years and broke many promises I made to family. At they end of the day, they had to afford my living cost too. Now after a month or two of graduation, here I am still in search for a part-time job or full time in a company. This is not a common destination for students from my country, Bangladesh, but I though I was smart to select otherwise and yep, I was wrong to do that.

      Lets all of us hope here we get out of this mess and settle down somewhere as many of us did here.

  1. You could not have said it any better! You are American, lucky you! I am African, so my tuition fees are also the non-EU/EAA bracket, but also, converting from an African currency to the Euro is far more expensive than from US$ to Euros. You are luckier than me in that despite it being a loan from a US Bank (which you will still have to pay off with interest), you are at least entitled to that! I have NO sponsor at all. For African students, our parents/ourselves pay EVERY SINGLE CENT…

    It’s appalling and shocking. It is truly a catch-22 situation, and the Dutch and EU legislators who approved this law are clearly insensitive to the realities of interantional students. I completely understand what you mean about not being able to go to the Dr because you are sick. I needed major dental work, and simply couldn’t afford it. What a life!

    • “It’s appalling and shocking”

      Sing it sister! Best of luck with your studies here!

  2. Yes guys, i am a student from Asia. I faced similar problems related to job, insurance etc.

    Even on our work permit its stated we are not allowed to work though we are allowed to work for 10 hours. I dont understand the process to apply for workpermit for 10 hours though we are allowed!!!!!

    Student insurace AON is not helpfull, bco swe have to pay doctor’s fees and farmacy in advance anf we can claim later on… So its useless.

    They have increased even cisa fees now to renew our visa from 52 Euros to 150euros, whats the hell tht!!1 200% increases…..

    Foreign student is a business for dutch government, they will nevr loose a chace to crush you….. be aware!!!!

  3. I really fail to understand how the Dutch Government views the non-eu students. The costs of living in the Netherlands plus the tuition fee is incredibly high. Much higher for the non-eu students apparently. And to sum it all up, the non-eu students are not even allowed to work in this country. In short, they dont want us here. This is modern day discrimination. Takes us back to 70 years ago, between the germans and jews. i kinda of see the similarities here between the dutch government and the Non-eu students.

  4. I’m from Serbia and I lived in the Netherlands for 10 years. First 5 years (time of studying) have been the worst 5 years of my life. I didn’t even have health insurance, to renew residence permit cost 430 euros, I studied in Haarlem and lived in Amsterdam which was about 20km away and didn’t have money for the public transport, etc.

    Unfortunately, after the graduation it hasn’t gotten much better as I still couldn’t get the permit to work. After about 8 years in total, I managed to get permanent residence permit and a job. I worked for 2 years, enough to be eligible to get the dutch passport, and as soon as I got it I moved to Germany.

    In a way I’m glad that I went through all that as now I know I can live without any money and in extreme circumstances. On the other hand, my youth (18-28 years old) has been nothing but working around the clock – no going out, travelling or any other fun that people of my age had. Somehow I still believe in bright future and that I will be able to make it up for what didn’t happen in my 20s. Still, I’m not sure if I would do it again.

  5. To add to that, if you happen to extend your studies a bit more and couldn’t find money you are even more fucked.

    I have been facing the same situation here, though i think i suffer a bit more. Nevertheless, suffering is what it is, doesn’t matter whether it’s more or less.
    a fellow sufferer from Asia.

  6. Brilliantly said! Couldn’t agree more!
    Poor student from the Middle East.

    • earth is round and time will come
      u shit will also suffer more than those asian students..
      dutch government looted asian student from 18th century. asians will not resist it any more. such a cruel discrimination will not be accepted.

  7. You should start a petition. I am dutch and am ashamed of this, and I think many fellow dutchmen are and would be very willing to sign such a petition. If you gather enough supporters, especially dutch supporters, it will have news coverage and quite possibly effect on policy.

    • How we can contact you? Really lets think about doing this. I do believe that there is a way to do something and at least to try make life more fair!
      Lena

      • Yes! I’m an American with a Dutch father and speak Dutch! But I have no Dutch passport. I would happily not only sign a petition but do anything to fight this! I now own a business under the Dutch American friendship treaty, and finishing my last 6 months of school. Lets fight this as much as we can!

      • Yes! I’m an American with a Dutch father and speak Dutch! But I have no Dutch passport. I would happily not only sign a petition but do anything to fight this! I now own a business under the Dutch American friendship treaty, and finishing my last 6 months of school. Lets fight this as much as we can!

        • I would love to take up this petition! I am a Asian and moved in with my husband. A professional with master’s and 2 years working experience. The dutch advertise that they are in need of my professional, but the real story is I need to apply for the registration (250 euro), and once they think you are eligible, within an year learn dutch, and appear for a test. Dutch language course each of it costs at least 280 euros. the test specific course is allowed only if you have completed language level NT2!!!! Meanwhile, My husband is the one who funds for all this. we are scraping at remains for all this, eventhough, I am allowed to work…Nobody wants to hire me!!(Do not speak FLUENT dutch) I am fed up! I was planning to write someone! did not know who!! Let’s make a petition!

          • Is someone still up to make this petition?? come on guys lets just start doing something.. You Dutch students should also support us from outside EU because you also know things are not that easy for you 😉

          • I am an international student form Africa, If you are still up for the petition, let me know. Thx

  8. By the way this goes also for EU students. I am from Bulgaria and the situation is much the same for me, plus I do not have a chance at the huge scholarships Asians students get since I am from the EU. So I am double fucked.

  9. Hello! You have stated your point very good! It is very bad for international students to start a life here. I am a Bulgarian living and studying in the Netherlands. I cannot get scholarships, I cannot get a job, I cannot do anything. And they are gonna make the laws even more strict! We should fight for our rights!

  10. the above mentioned stories are just 10% of wat we suffer. inspite of all documents and studies in order the IND blocks to issue ur residence permit for no reason which results u cant even apply for work permit, we even hv the situations when we work for euro 3 per hour .(sumthing is better than nothing) they stopped the scholorship refund .. we pay euro 700 tuition fees monthly around 400 accomodation , 100 insurance, 100 travelling , 100 food . and how much do we need to earn for this minimum living cost ? that also working 10 hrs a week.

  11. Face it, as soon as we’re born, we are a product. If you are born Dutch, people in the late 80’s and 90’s did nothing but speculate on the net. worth a person would have (should have, in their mind) in 2015 or so… Universities make money on the ammount of students they have, and we need cheap labour too. So “we need” people doing illegal jobs…. Same with Enron, Mortages Dotcom bubble etc.

    (Not very cohese, i’m sorry for that.)

  12. Conclusion – True hypocrisy : You are from a developing country. Your country is poor. We are rich in EU. Our government can sub-vent our fees. Your government is poor and cannot sub-vent your fees. So because you are poor you have to pay Higher school fees. Triple the one that we the rich pay. You are allowed to work for 10 hours a week. You get a job only if no EU citizen wants the job. In other words you eat only the food rejected by EU citizen.

    • you just stated my mind…the non eu student life here in the Netherland is mindblowing

  13. If you see Netherlands as bad as i do then you should realize, there are almost 150 better Nations then Germany or the Netherlands. Only a Mad Man would live there. Well i would grab ma stuff and go elsewhere better.

    • weird, why do you write off germany and netherlands as the same? i happen to be german and we do not have study fees like the netherlands. its basically not a fee, it is only a small amout so the university doesnt pay you. its like 500€ a year and you get a train ticket for the county aswell, no extra fee, and its the same for everyone. doesnt matter if you are from EU or non-EU.
      we have so many immigrants and we treat them very good compaired to the dutch. even as an EU student it is crazy hard to find a job in the netherlands. i know alot of students in germany who are non-EU/non-german and they never reported that its that hard to find work or that the goverment is basically trying to fuck them up.

  14. Hi Guys, I am an EU student, I have half of the problems that you have, but maybe I have the whole (probably the only) solution.
    I understand that You didn’t know about the permits and other stuff.
    I will tell You something that You probably also don’t know.
    Creating a legal company in Netherlands is very cheap – almost nothing. I don’t know how it is with people out of EU, but you can even create a company in your home country if it’s better for you and just use it in NL.
    You people come from far away countries and it is sometimes completely different culture, but also completely different products.
    For example Asia – in Asia you have loads of cheap stuff which many people import to sell in EU, I seriously think that a student from Asia knows much better where to get cheaper and better stuff then an importer. So this student can sell it here by himself and make money!
    For USA – in USA there are also some products hard to get in Europe – I myself am sometimes forced to get replacement parts from USA because I cannot get them in Europe. Many things are cheaper to get from USA then from a neighboring country in EU.
    Same for Africa, but with low-technical stuff.

    You all know the best of your home countries and selling on eBay is an option to make money.
    Of course, trading is just one option, some other skills from Asia and Africa are also price-worthy in Europe. Not mentioning more common skills.
    Stop with your very popular “I am going to be a worker” mentality, the future is changing and with this mentality you are going to be a big looser of life even after graduating, believe me. I know people that graduated with a good degree and have difficulties with finding a job. Even if they find it , they get shitty pay. That is reality, that is now, that is the trend, the past was better now is worse, future is going to be even worse.

    If you are in desperation, let this desperation direct you to a place where the real money resides, where you are dependent only from yourself, to the business world.

  15. Well I am EU citizen and I have to work at least 15 h a week to get OV card and scholarship, but all People I know from my school who comes outside EU, especially girls, found Dutch boyfriends and signed partnership and for now on they get all the benefits: OV card, scholarship, they even have to pay the same amount of tuition fee for school like EU students. But if u are EU citizen and you are getting married with your Dutch partner, you want get any benefits at all. How come?

  16. This is exactly what I’m facing now. I need to pay an outstanding 5800 euros every year (6000 next year). To make it easier, I chose to pay in installments. But that does not help at all. My school blocks my school ID which practically exclude me from the education I follow every month I fail to pay my monthly installment. I applied for hundred part-time jobs and was lucky enough to work illegally for a month or so before my employer kicked me out. My family had to sell our house to send me money which I easily spent in a few months for tuition fee and living costs (250 euros/month room fee and 15 euros/week for food). I do not travel anywhere, never go out, practically I miss the best years of my life.
    Seriously, Dutch government should be ashamed for making people suffer like this. They literally invaded and exploited many countries in the past, but have no decency to pay back. I’m not begging for help, but this is obviously a discrimination.

  17. from Arpatheid in south africa to discrimination of foreign students to EU students, netherlands is the first country in this world to always find a drastical solution to ghost problem. the way they have built the system does not allow students out of EU to make it. We do not ask to live like your citizens but at least to earn our minimum.By doing this we are equally contributing to the development of your economy as well.

  18. Hi. People.
    How is it going the petition proposal?

    I am studying in Portugal, master degree. I’m Brazilian and I am married to a dutch citizien, but under the dutch law We dont fill the requirements to apply for a visa. We’re married but living separated , I am in Portugal and He is in the Netherlands.I do not fear to say that the Dutch laws are totally against immigrants. We can see it everywhere the Dutch citizens are also victims of this process. Dutch employers are unable to hire a student or worker who is not an EU national. Dutch citizens married to citizens of other countries may not require a visa for residence in the Netherlands, unless by proving that they are “”rich””.
    it seems, that to study in the Netherlands is regarded as a bussines for the Dutch government, you have only the right to come here and spend all your money by consuming and living in Holland, but in return You have no right to work here and get an income. In fact you are not a citizen, but a consumer of a Dutch product that is for sale for those who can afford it: education.
    So come here and spend all your money after that go back when you have nothing more to pay to consume our product (education).
    My husband is Dutch and totally disappointed with the Dutch system.

    • Hi, Iara. I’m quite in the same situation. I’m also Brazilian and my boyfriend is Dutch. I am applying for a Masters in an Dutch institution (and also for a partial scholarship which covers the tuition fee and part of the living costs). I’ve heard about the rigorousness of the Dutch law, especially nowadays.. I was here in my room trying to figure out a way to afford the remaining expenses.. I’m currently working here, in Brazil and I’ll probably get some financial help from my parents, but not enough.. While writing my financial plan I started searching for how much a non-EU student earns doing a part time job in the Netherlands.. then I ended up finding this article.. surprisingly it didn’t shock me as I thought it would.. Well my boyfriend fixes bikes and works part time cleaning a house, although he is really good at IT.. he is in process of getting an internship for the rest of the year which is a good thing. The situation is not easy for Dutch citizens.. I can imagine how can it be for foreigners.

  19. I concur with everything being said. I am from Argentina and I wanted to do a Master in The Netherlands but I couldn´t find a way to avoid the astronomic tuition fees and no chance to work.

    My advice is to try with Belgium or Germany, but know that in both cases (as with NL) you will have to work hard, especially with the language. If you don´t want to learn german or dutch, you will be looked down by most of the people you will meet.

    Also I find ridiculous to spend all your family money to pay the university, when there are a lot of countries with free education (including even Argentina!). If you think the education of the expensive degrees is better, you are sadly mistaken. In the end only your intelligence and entrepeneurship counts, the amount of money you pay won´t improve your capabilities in these areas.

  20. The post is very old, but in the USA its the same for non US citizens. So why are the US allowed to do that, but not the Dutch?

  21. Unfortunately, this situation exists in most of the countries. Like the Dutch seem unfair to Non-Dutch or Non-EU/EEA citizens, in the US, International students aren’t allowed to work outside of campus. I am an US citizen myself and never had the issue. But, I have had few international friends who had issues paying for their living.

    I am married to a Dutch Man, and I hardly speak any Dutch. For this reason, though I have my residence permit to work, it is hard for me to find a job in Holland as I don’t speak Dutch. And, it is totally understandable as businesses hire candidates that can improve their business. I don’t have any complaints as I made the choice to move to Holland to be with my husband. I am learning Dutch and will continue applying for jobs with my fingers crossed.

  22. Hey guys

    I am glad to find this website , it helped me a lot to understand the current situation of Non-eu students in netherlands . I was thinking to apply Hanze University , Groningen. But i think not anymore . I think in this case European country Lithuania is best , at least you don’t have to pay heavy fees and other expenses . Anyone plz suggest me any other European country where i can do MBA or MS in terms of jobs for non – eu. anyone plz give your opinion on Czeh Republic for the same.

    And i am sure about one thing if you guys spread this website , this will effect netherlands non-eu study applications , which will directly effect on their economy and in this current scenario no country want to see slow down in their economy. Hope this will force netherland gov. to do changes in their laws.

  23. I am a non-EU student. Luckily enough my parents support me which I realize for a lot people that simply isn’t an option.

    But, we knew before I decided to go to NL the issues with work permits, higher tuition, etc. And we accepted that.

    Nobody is forcing anybody to go the the Netherlands. Claims of discrimination are absolute nonsense. It is a person’s responsibility to know the laws of the country they go to.

    The Netherlands is a sovereign country and its CITIZENS (not non-citizens like us) decide and have the right to determine what laws are appropriate for the country.

  24. Hi guys. I’m a Brazilian but I also hold an Italian citizenship. I decided to do a master degree in Europe as I can pay the institutional fee. I’ve been saving money, however at some point I’ll have to find a job to pay for my living expenses. I do not speak Dutch. I’ve been trying to find some part-time job and it seems to be very difficult, which makes me think about applying for this university or not. Does anyone here can give me some realistic view about the vacancies? I have a bachelor degree in accounting and I’ve been working as a financial auditor for 6 years. As it seems to be difficult finding a job I am willing to accept jobs out of my field.

  25. @camila

    Hi. With experience as a financial auditor, and a degree in it, you should be able to find a job more easily in the Netherlands. But, you will have to ask yourself some questions. First, are you able to work on a self-employed basis? If not, I would like to warn you that it may be hard to get employed in the Netherlands in audit services if you do not speak the language. Avoid the big companies. Maybe you can contact a small audit firm and try to get confirmation that you can work there for some time, and get to learn the knowhow of the Dutch system from them before you go to the Netherlands to study. I would say that chances for this are higher for the smaller firms. Even so, they might be suspicious of you since it is quite unheard of someone from Brazil comes to ask this. Second, do you think you could learn to work with the audit/tax system in a short amount of time? If you cannot do this in 3 months, which is the time in which you would have to work out the first tax report for a client, maybe it would not be wise to come. Third, you should have a website in case you go self-employed, and very preferably a Dutch one. Some Dutch webhosters provide free websites as far as I know, as far as you take over the ending of their domain name to promote their services. Still, it is hard to get ranked higher in Google, and it may take some time to make a name for yourself. It would be best to try and meet companies who would like to use your services when already working for a small office, and slowly switching from being employed to self-employed. Lastly, I know that some universities, like Maastricht, may sometimes still allow applicants after May, but they will be more selective after May. Other universities are very strict and you have to have applied before May. For students who are troubled with the Dutch tuition fees, I know that some universities in Europe will allow you to convert study points (ects) to their universities, as long as the subjects of your programmes of study matches with them (you get study points for sufficiently matching programmes). This has to be assessed first. This might save you the incredibly high tuition fees if you are in a bad situation. You might try to get a traineeship in a more international environment, like ICT offices. Regarding work-limits, maybe at some places it is possible to work under the law of another country? If you can work on a remote basis for a foreign company also, I think it is possible that Dutch law does not apply to your situation. Please check this. Because then, you are formally working in another country. This might be a solution to getting more than the 10 hours or something work that is allowed per week.

  26. Oh, and by the way. Everything I stated is purely my opinion on the matter. No rights can be derived from it. I tried to offer advise on the matter but that is all. In the end, you have to check everything yourself.

  27. Just added this because I do not want anyone to hold me accountable with anything that might happen because I tried to give advise on a matter, of which the results may work out good or bad, depending on the kind of action a person will take with it, of which I do not want to be held responsible.

  28. Also, yes, costs for studying are very high for non-EU students, but all EU students have a bsa (binding study advice) first year, meaning that if Dutch students do not perform well the first year they get kicked out too. I think the Netherlands is an exception for doing this. Secondly, in some other countries, education is free. The Netherlands does not do this because it does not believe in the functionality of such models, but it is an advantage of other students versus the Netherlands. Also, where other countries tend to focus on other languages, the Netherlands is very focused on English. In other countries, you practically must learn the language. The Dutch Government informs people, they know the risks. They can get kicked out (also Dutch students) first year, they face high tuition fees. If you want to do it anyway it is your choice. I would say for a part, it is Dutch culture. Not so many years, practices with people selling insurances with many tiny letters ringing the doorbell and putting a foot between the door was still common practice in the Netherlands. Some people are still stuck with them. A lot have fortunately been saved by television programmes who kind of reviewed these practices, with powerful, skilled persons on their side. But that does not mean that the remnants of such things are not still there in the Netherlands. Also, the Netherlands gets a lot of EU students already (and non-EU, even though they have that policy). Maybe that also influences the decision-making.

    • About the bsa and getting kicked out first year: Does that ONLY apply to the first year? or does this constant looming threat of getting kicked out stay for your entire study time? I’m about to start my bachelor in groningen and this is really stressing me out…

  29. Ok here is my story..and it is a funny story because it has not even actually started before it became a story. Unlike most of you I am not even in netherlands to study and yet they have somehow devised such a plan that my whole life has gone upside down.

    I was a prospective student for Groningen university for Masters. I applied, got accepted, and then they asked me to deposit the living expensive money and also the immigration fee which i did as directed on July 1st 2016. During all the communication prior to the admission i was told that i ll have to pay the Tuition fee by the 1st Sept 2016 and that is when the classes will start. So I was fine as I had imagined I ll be there by that time and will pay the university myself. My visa application was filed on 15th July 2016 and on the same day i Received mail from the university that I ll have to pay the Tuition fee immediately or my application for the visa will not be processed. I didnt have the money but somehow i managed to arrange it and by 26th July the university had around 25000 euro from my side and the only thing which was left was my visa.

    Now guys, it has been 73 days and my visa hasnt been processed, the IND has not given any information and so haven the university and all they say to me is that the IND has 90 days to process the application out of which i have waited for 73 days. On top of that the university says that you have to deal with the faculty yourself, if they wont take you we can not do anything.

    So now you ll see the unique nature of my story in which I lost my job, i sent every penny i had, i do not know where i stand, paid the room rent in advance as there was no way anyone was going to hold it for me, classes started on 5th September and I am still here.

    This story started before it began and at the same time this story ended before it started.

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